It has all been smoke and mirrors. The first clue is trump's boasting, followed by his praise of arab leaders that are laughing at him not with him, and his unsubtle hints about receiving a nobel. It's truly fantastic that the hostages have been returned but in the scheme of a 1,400 year old ideological war (not 3,000 like trump claims), it's a small positive blip for Jews, that yes, won't last.
Not sure if trump is that stupid, that much of an egomaniac, or following his handler's playbook. Regardless, the terror will restart again soon enough (globally) and the whiplash effect likely will be even worse.
Unfortunately though, only some Jews are the ones who see the setup. Leftist Jews are the enemies of Israel and other Jews and are stupid and complicit enough to side with all forms of eastern/western jihad.
This Jew grew up as a conservative in a roiling sea of Libtards on the East Coast. As some have said, Liberalism is a mental disorder or Liberals screw up everything they touch!
I have read and heard many pundits condemning the genocide in Gaza. I have witnessed most of those that spoke out on that issue labelled as antisemite. But what I have seen as a common thread by those against the slaughter of citizens on both sides, Is the statement that their dissent was in no way a condemnation of the Jewish people.
The condemnation is for HAMAS, Trump and Netanyahu. The world would be a better place without them all.
This peace deal could have been concluded last year, but Trump instructed Bibi to hold off, so Biden wouldn't get the credit. I'll close by saying, I don't see any peace actually resulting from this PR stunt. This is about one of the largest real estate deals in history. It is driven by the greed of two very corrupt world leaders, and their shared desire to escape justice.
There was no "genocide" in gaza. It is a total fabrication which is why people call the charge antisemitic because it is. In all other wars civilian fatalities are labeled "collateral damage". Suddenly and solely in the case of gaza has it been labeled "genocide". This of course waters down true genocides such as Christians in Nigeria. I'm not saying you're an antisemite, but you are getting wrong information from sources who ARE antisemites. You should know that the civilian to combatant ratio in gaza was the lowest in the history of modern warfare. We and our allies caused more civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan proportionately. Does it make sense that there could have been genocide since the IDF evacuated and warned people of impending attacks? And why the war lasted 2 years with Israeli risking its own soldiers when it could have simply carpet bombed the whole damn place and ended it in weeks if their goal was genocide? Please use your common sense.
I totally agree with you. Trump wanted the credit for ending the war and freeing the hostages. So, he couldn't let Israel have a victory on its own. Israel was close to ending hamas without releasing any more terrorist prisoners and with Israeli control over the strip. Israel needs to produce its own fighter jets and whatever else they receive from us. Never again should the Israelis be in a position of kowtowing to any self-serving egomaniacal American president. And what about that humiliating phone call Bibi was forced to make to the qatari inbreds who funded the October 7 genocide and to which Trump made sure was done before the cameras so that he could show the world who's really in charge of who and also have the world watch Bibi grovel to the scum who funded the October 7 crimes against humanity? Why would a close ally do such a thing? It's as if he wanted to publicly humiliate Bibi and Israel. Shouldn't qatar be apologizing to Israel?
A cleverly written piece of propoganda. I can't agree with it because in spite of it asserting the opposite, it ignores the factual history and the facts of the last 70+ years.
I hold no ill-feeling for you but my reading is that you are an apologist for Israel's perfidy with little or no justification other than a prejudice or bias.
I'm not looking for a tit-for-tat argument for they are always pointless. In many posts I have pointed out the painful tragedy of the events of the last 2 years in Gaza and the West Bank, as well as the history that led up to the perfidious deceit, lies and formation of the Israeli (Zionist) State by foreign powers, not least Britain, France, Germany and the USA.
The notion of 'self defence' for Israel is a specious one. Probably the mightiest nation in the Word has effectively protected it, as well as funded and armed to it produce its strong military capabilities and the impunity with which it has landlocked and held hostage the Palestine people in the occupied territories for at least 2 decades.
* Perhaps, I've misinterpreted you, in which case I apologise to you and request a more evidenced explanation of your case based in reality.
* Perhaps, I just don't understand, in which case I have been fooled either by my own success is the academic world, my qualifications, the comments of many others, my ego or, perhaps, some combination of or all of those.
* Perhaps we simply have a different notion of what is just and what is persecution and what, when one is attacked, (if one is not prepared to turn the other cheek and seek the reasons why and ways to rectify them, rather than just respond to their symptoms), and you see Israel's outlandishly disproportionate retaliation for the Hamas incursion of 7 October 2023 as justified, despite it being in direct contravention of the intent of the 'Eye for an eye' legal intention that produced it, in oder to prevent escalation and ceaseless conflict.
I don't know the answers to to those questions but would welcome a chance to know them.
Meanwhile I can only indicate a strong disagreement with much of what you write but a willingness, even if it has to be from opposing views, to find a recognition of and/or concialisation of our views.
Here's one that we can agree on. We disagree with our viewpoints on this matter, but you have responded very calmly and rationally. For that I have great respect for you! Thank you for your engagement. Have a great day.
Sunny
Hopefully we can have further discussions. I truly respect people who can agree to disagree.
Please expand on this comment which you have graced with an exclamation mark, which suggests to me some form of negative view of me, given that I used that phrase which, incidentally, is completely appropriate if a non-biased and objective view is taken.
Yes, seriously. If you doubt the appropriateness of the word - as I assume is what your comment suggests - I suggest you check its definition in multiple dictionaries. It is an accurate word for what the Hamas military wing did on 7th October 2023.
Brilliant assessment!
It has all been smoke and mirrors. The first clue is trump's boasting, followed by his praise of arab leaders that are laughing at him not with him, and his unsubtle hints about receiving a nobel. It's truly fantastic that the hostages have been returned but in the scheme of a 1,400 year old ideological war (not 3,000 like trump claims), it's a small positive blip for Jews, that yes, won't last.
Not sure if trump is that stupid, that much of an egomaniac, or following his handler's playbook. Regardless, the terror will restart again soon enough (globally) and the whiplash effect likely will be even worse.
Unfortunately though, only some Jews are the ones who see the setup. Leftist Jews are the enemies of Israel and other Jews and are stupid and complicit enough to side with all forms of eastern/western jihad.
This Jew grew up as a conservative in a roiling sea of Libtards on the East Coast. As some have said, Liberalism is a mental disorder or Liberals screw up everything they touch!
Thanks very much for your comments.
Sunny
I have read and heard many pundits condemning the genocide in Gaza. I have witnessed most of those that spoke out on that issue labelled as antisemite. But what I have seen as a common thread by those against the slaughter of citizens on both sides, Is the statement that their dissent was in no way a condemnation of the Jewish people.
The condemnation is for HAMAS, Trump and Netanyahu. The world would be a better place without them all.
This peace deal could have been concluded last year, but Trump instructed Bibi to hold off, so Biden wouldn't get the credit. I'll close by saying, I don't see any peace actually resulting from this PR stunt. This is about one of the largest real estate deals in history. It is driven by the greed of two very corrupt world leaders, and their shared desire to escape justice.
That is certainly the most interesting comment I have seen on the subject....
I can definitely see how you got there.
Thanks for your input.
Sunny
I strongly disagree.
John, That is what makes the world go around! Thanks for your input.
I strongly agree. Lol. Cheers.
Cheers to you as well my friend.
There was no "genocide" in gaza. It is a total fabrication which is why people call the charge antisemitic because it is. In all other wars civilian fatalities are labeled "collateral damage". Suddenly and solely in the case of gaza has it been labeled "genocide". This of course waters down true genocides such as Christians in Nigeria. I'm not saying you're an antisemite, but you are getting wrong information from sources who ARE antisemites. You should know that the civilian to combatant ratio in gaza was the lowest in the history of modern warfare. We and our allies caused more civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan proportionately. Does it make sense that there could have been genocide since the IDF evacuated and warned people of impending attacks? And why the war lasted 2 years with Israeli risking its own soldiers when it could have simply carpet bombed the whole damn place and ended it in weeks if their goal was genocide? Please use your common sense.
I totally agree with you. Trump wanted the credit for ending the war and freeing the hostages. So, he couldn't let Israel have a victory on its own. Israel was close to ending hamas without releasing any more terrorist prisoners and with Israeli control over the strip. Israel needs to produce its own fighter jets and whatever else they receive from us. Never again should the Israelis be in a position of kowtowing to any self-serving egomaniacal American president. And what about that humiliating phone call Bibi was forced to make to the qatari inbreds who funded the October 7 genocide and to which Trump made sure was done before the cameras so that he could show the world who's really in charge of who and also have the world watch Bibi grovel to the scum who funded the October 7 crimes against humanity? Why would a close ally do such a thing? It's as if he wanted to publicly humiliate Bibi and Israel. Shouldn't qatar be apologizing to Israel?
Interesting take on things. I can't disagree with your assessment of Trump's motivations. He is sort of an egomaniac!
A cleverly written piece of propoganda. I can't agree with it because in spite of it asserting the opposite, it ignores the factual history and the facts of the last 70+ years.
I hold no ill-feeling for you but my reading is that you are an apologist for Israel's perfidy with little or no justification other than a prejudice or bias.
I'm not looking for a tit-for-tat argument for they are always pointless. In many posts I have pointed out the painful tragedy of the events of the last 2 years in Gaza and the West Bank, as well as the history that led up to the perfidious deceit, lies and formation of the Israeli (Zionist) State by foreign powers, not least Britain, France, Germany and the USA.
The notion of 'self defence' for Israel is a specious one. Probably the mightiest nation in the Word has effectively protected it, as well as funded and armed to it produce its strong military capabilities and the impunity with which it has landlocked and held hostage the Palestine people in the occupied territories for at least 2 decades.
* Perhaps, I've misinterpreted you, in which case I apologise to you and request a more evidenced explanation of your case based in reality.
* Perhaps, I just don't understand, in which case I have been fooled either by my own success is the academic world, my qualifications, the comments of many others, my ego or, perhaps, some combination of or all of those.
* Perhaps we simply have a different notion of what is just and what is persecution and what, when one is attacked, (if one is not prepared to turn the other cheek and seek the reasons why and ways to rectify them, rather than just respond to their symptoms), and you see Israel's outlandishly disproportionate retaliation for the Hamas incursion of 7 October 2023 as justified, despite it being in direct contravention of the intent of the 'Eye for an eye' legal intention that produced it, in oder to prevent escalation and ceaseless conflict.
I don't know the answers to to those questions but would welcome a chance to know them.
Meanwhile I can only indicate a strong disagreement with much of what you write but a willingness, even if it has to be from opposing views, to find a recognition of and/or concialisation of our views.
Take care. Stay safe. ☮️
Here's one that we can agree on. We disagree with our viewpoints on this matter, but you have responded very calmly and rationally. For that I have great respect for you! Thank you for your engagement. Have a great day.
Sunny
Hopefully we can have further discussions. I truly respect people who can agree to disagree.
Thank you. ☮️
"the Hamas INCURSION of 7th October 2023"? Incursion? Seriously?
Shauna, you should consider the choice of people who make that comment!
(you understand what I'm saying)
Please expand on this comment which you have graced with an exclamation mark, which suggests to me some form of negative view of me, given that I used that phrase which, incidentally, is completely appropriate if a non-biased and objective view is taken.
Yes, seriously. If you doubt the appropriateness of the word - as I assume is what your comment suggests - I suggest you check its definition in multiple dictionaries. It is an accurate word for what the Hamas military wing did on 7th October 2023.